We had a conversation the other day, below this diary regarding the tragedy in Paris which took many days in order to be completed and i would like to share it because I think it shows clearly that we are directly and totally responsible for the chaos we experience everyday.
The dialogue between me and Clive is quite long (you can read it in the end of the diary i mentioned above).. we were discussing about the meaning of responsibility, trying at the same moment to locate whether we are responsible regarding such atrocities like the one that happened in Paris. I’m just placing here the last part of the dialogue:
- Clive: Yes, it is certainly true that our perception is fragmented, which is a great limitation, and brings about violence and great mischief. And sorrow of course. I am still inquiring into my relationship with the horrors of the world; exactly how I am responsible for them. You did not reply to the question on my previous mail – which meaning do you put on the word ‘responsible’?
- George: My previous answer was implying that once i bring about division, i am responsible for the whole mess (including the chaos in Paris). Someone could intellectually approach it and say “it’s not obvious that i am responsible for a specific tragedy”.. obviously i can’t prove how me bringing division could lead to the atrocity in Paris, i am not implying i know what is the exact connection, but to me its clear i am responsible.. to put it in different words, we must ask ourselves honestly whether we are responsible for all the chaos in humanity. Probably the answer will be much more clear than every intellectual argumentation.
- Clive: You still have not given an answer to the question that I have asked twice. I will try repeating it here: “There are two somewhat different meanings to the word ‘responsible’, is there not? One, it means ‘i have caused this’. Two, it means I feel a strong movement to respond adequately, to do what I can, to solve the problem as much as is possible. In your last sentence, which meaning did you intend? Or maybe both.” Finally, looking at your last mail, most of the common identifications – of religion, race, nationality, politics, etc, have dropped away from me (not by some conscious act, but naturally, easily, by seeing the implications of such identification. So I have no concept of belonging to any nation. Does this mean that I am no longer responsible for nationalistic divisions and war?
- George: I have to say a few things on the example about nationalism.. you may not carry the burden of nationalism but if you carry other identifications like “being jealous” “not accepting to to be treated violently” or “all we need is love” etc.. carrying a few identifications/images/ideas and not carrying others doesn’t mean we are not responsible for the division.. oh, something is coming.. if we don’t separate the discussion in topics like “the problem of nationalism” “the problem of racism” “the fear for a world war” etc and we just see the root of all them, which is division, things get much clear. Either we follow a few (more or less) identifications and we are absolutely responsible for division or not so we are totally not responsible. Is this notice any helpful? In any case we don’t need to agree or disagree.. we are carefully listening one each other with affection and probably the truth or falseness of our sayings will appear sooner or later!