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Para Vani or how to be a Lucky Luke of Awareness

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A friend called Marios first referred to Para Vani, which is a stage in the process of the creation of thought where the words that describe this thought are still absent. I am not sure this is the official meaning of this word but this is what the writer wants to refer to. Then came a conversation regarding identification with two friends on FB, Lina and Little Green Man which seems to connect with this pre-word-forming observation/awareness

  • LGM: Once i realize an emotion there is “remembrance” .. This helps me to expand the “image” of time and space so as for this emotion to fit as another expression/manifestation. So it loses its energy, i just observe it and i say “oh I see, that’s it”
  • Lina: I think the key is the word you mentioned above.. to Observe. When we become observers we don’t give energy to emotions, they don’t carry us away!
  • George:  Exactly little man, “Oh I see, that’s it” or “look what was hiding here!!”. And then comes a smile , but a real one not a bitter one. What you describe here i think is de-identification. Observation brings de-identification, hm?
  • LGM: Even better is non identification.. but it needs so much practice like Lucky Luke who was able to shoot faster than his shadow.
  • George: Heheh, well, if you are very observant, it’s possible to realize fear, irritation, everything, the moment they are born, you almost feel fear coming from the depth.. being so observant then practically fear is not, there is no  irritation at all..
Don’t know if this dialogue makes any sense at all but it feels like this metaphor “to be so alert like Lucky Luke shooting faster than his shadow” is exactly to the point. It seems that a passive mind doesn’t identify at all.. active minds do identify with thoughts but once there is actual awareness then de-identification takes place naturally.. now it seems possible that this de-identification takes place in this “stage” of Para Vani.. there is so much alertness and there is awareness of the emotion or thought, of anger, or fear, of jealousy or aggression, of cunningness or insecurity, as it is appearing from the depth.. like we see it coming.. so there is a feeling/awareness of anger before the creation of the word “anger” (whent the word is still absent). Then the emotion of anger is disappearing, or to be more accurate it isn’t even appearing at all. Awareness is so much alert to catch/observe anger the moment of its birth. And there is so much aliveness in that, there is sense of immense beauty.

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Jorge Kapa

The speaker is never important but you may examine the message, if you wish

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  1. a fine adventure, good watching, if I were a betting man, which I’m not, I’d bet (I have no money to bet) you might be one of those fortunate human beings whose mind is not so traumatically layered with conditioning (neurrosis) which puts up such a thick wall that life has to virtually set of an explosion to wake up that dormant or repressed quality of the mind to observe without having the word being foremost :)

    • so would you say Michael, that this is how its possible for a conditioned man like me to see without the word? which obviously doesn’t imply to make a method, technique, of that..?

  2. the thinking process is mechanical and life (which includes societies, cultures) are organic, so there is direct contact, which is undivided attention when the word does not dominate perception, and as you described, there was no violent imposition of resistance to repress the thought, so there was freedom for thought in the light of perception to do what it will, naturallly, and no method or technique was fashioned, was it? That is a good point, habit of thought has a habit of forming methods techniques, that’s its function, but only in a mechanical necessity, building a house, changing a tire … there is no technique or method in perception as you’ve described, and sorry I’ waking up and tend to overuse the word in the written form but, perception does not pattern energy patterns or it may not, words function in groove ,method technique, pattern

    • i am not sure if thought itself realizes that or its intelligence (and i am not sure if its important to investigate that).. but yes, there is a clear feeling that thought here is irrelevant, it has no place, so natural/effortless lack of interest in this thought so thought dissolves..

      I’ve read what K said about this, but what i communicate here didn’t happen when i read that.

      The only thing “I did” was that i asked this question “is it possible to see the tree without the word “tree”, i actually asked the question, with no preconceived ideas (neither that its possible nor that it is not)

    • well, its not a thing you have to be certain about is it, there is intelligence when thought is not in charge, perception, clarity of perception brings intelligence, generates energy, so whether it was intelligence or thought doing its thing, look it is probably this: intelligence is informing thought, in a way that we couldn’t really put a final word too, and it is not for me to say, in any particular situation, just observing, intelligence, clarity of perception and thought findng its own place, itss all one movement, harmoniously, and analysis is thought’s job in order to advance communication I suppose, but its always good in these matteers to be tentative, not conclude anything – perception never concludes, sentences conclude, finally and it stops right here. :)

  3. oh hey, I’m not considering “a conditioned man like you” no need to form an image at all, that is paart of the problem, having an image,, and I’ll have no part in it at all !!!!! The thing we are looking at is the nature of thinking, which tends to condition the mind if not understood, that’s the totality of it, my friend, I havve to go for now, for a while

  4. Aye. Splendid.
    I think that when we can observe the tree without naming it, we see more of the tree. We just see what is there. When we name the tree we reduce our perception of it to our preexisting idea of a tree and see only that. Abandoning that recognition/categorisation and returning to the tree we actually see, the tree becomes wonderful, or rather we are able to appreciate it. It works on the photo above as well as an actual tree, though an actual tree is better. :)

    • i think you can make much pleasure of watching a tree based on the past, like “oh look how marvelous colors it has” or “such strange flowers” etc etc.. which are all references to the past..

      when you watch a tree without the word, there is just joy, uninvited joy.

      PS: This comments comes only to add one more thing to what you stated above! Thanks

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